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I have a question about strained timing. If a Bo Katan with Strained makes a move to trigger Pride of Mandalore to focus, and the focus triggers Mandalore will Survive to heal, does the heal trigger before strained? Allowing her to remove strained before it triggers?

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I know that if you heal as an action you can remove a strain before it triggers from the heal action, however what about heals triggered off of other actions.  For example Bo-Katan with a strain token performs a focus, this triggers her 'Mandalore will Survive' ability which grants her 2 heals and a dash, if she resolves the heals first and removes the strain does this prevent the strain triggering from the focus action and dealing her 3 damage?

If so is it possible to chain multiple abilities in this way, so if Bo's first action is a move which triggers 'Mandalorians are stronger together' for the focus action then the 2 heals from 'Mandalore will survive' to remove the strain would that also prevent the strain from dealing her damage?

Also in both examples if I were to trigger the dash from 'Mandalore will survive' first would the strain trigger off the dash and deal her 3 damage before her heals would resolve?

And in a different direction if a character resolves a heal from its combat tree to remove a strain, does that prevent the strain dealing damage from the combat action/attack? (Assuming the character doesn't resolve an effect from its combat tree that would trigger a strain before resolving the heal)

Thanks in Advance

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If Bo-Katan is Strained and makes a focus action to trigger Mandalore will survive, can she Dash and Heal to remove the Strained before Strained triggers and therefore she will  not suffer 3 damage from being Strained before taking a focus action?

Thank you!

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On 6/13/2023 at 7:48 AM, Volcano said:

I know that if you heal as an action you can remove a strain before it triggers from the heal action, however what about heals triggered off of other actions

There are a lot of variables that make blanket statements difficult.

On 6/13/2023 at 7:48 AM, Volcano said:

For example Bo-Katan with a strain token performs a focus, this triggers her 'Mandalore will Survive' ability which grants her 2 heals and a dash, if she resolves the heals first and removes the strain does this prevent the strain triggering from the focus action and dealing her 3 damage?

This will depend on whether she decides to resolve the dash or not, which has to happen before the heals

The timing would look like this

Bo performs the focus Action
  - Focus action occurs
     - Focus provides its bonus
  - Focus action ends
  - Strain and Mandalore will survive are now both waiting to trigger/resolve off the end of the action
     - Player effects resolve first, so we do mandalore will survive
  - Mandalore will survive ability
     - Choose to dash or not
         - If you choose to dash, strain will trigger and resolve after the dash movement is complete
     - Heal
        - If you didn't trigger the strain by dashing, you can remove it here
     - Heal
- Mandalore will survive ability ends
- Strain will trigger/resolve here(because we have come back around to the end of the focus action effects) if it is still present on the character

On 6/13/2023 at 7:48 AM, Volcano said:

If so is it possible to chain multiple abilities in this way, so if Bo's first action is a move which triggers 'Mandalorians are stronger together' for the focus action then the 2 heals from 'Mandalore will survive' to remove the strain would that also prevent the strain from dealing her damage?

Yes, as long as when she opts to perform the move action, she then decides to not actually make an advance, dash or climb movement

On 6/13/2023 at 7:48 AM, Volcano said:

Also in both examples if I were to trigger the dash from 'Mandalore will survive' first would the strain trigger off the dash and deal her 3 damage before her heals would resolve?

Yes, if you decide to actually perform the movements, they will trigger the strain first.

On 6/13/2023 at 7:48 AM, Volcano said:

And in a different direction if a character resolves a heal from its combat tree to remove a strain, does that prevent the strain dealing damage from the combat action/attack? (Assuming the character doesn't resolve an effect from its combat tree that would trigger a strain before resolving the heal)

Yes

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On 9/8/2023 at 10:22 AM, Thoras said:

This will depend on whether she decides to resolve the dash or not, which has to happen before the heals

The timing would look like this

Bo performs the focus Action
  - Focus action begins
     - Strained triggers
    - Focus provides its bonus
  - Focus action ends
    - Strained and Mandalore will survive are now both waiting to resolve and or trigger off the end of the action
      - Player effects resolve first, so we do mandalore will survive
        - Mandalore will survive
          - Choose to dash or not
          - If you choose to dash
              - Begin dash
                 - Triggering Strained
                - Perform movement
             - End Dash
               - Strained resolves here
          - If you choose to not dash
          - Heal
            - If you didn't trigger the strained by dashing, you can remove it here
        - Heal
   - Mandalore will survive ability ends
     - Strained resolves here if it hasn't been removed

 

The above example results in the same conclusion, but the order of effects is updated based on the updated rulings for strained

 

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