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What is the difference in determining who is affected by attack triggers like Rampage and Explosive Force?

Carnage's rampage trigger says "After each attack is resolved, deal 1 damage to each other enemy character within range 2 of this character."

Gwenom's rampage trigger says "After this attack is resolved, deal 1 damage to each other enemy character within range 3 of this character."

Weapon X's rampage trigger says "After this attack is resolved, deal 1 damage to each other character within range 2 of this character."

Black Panther's Explosive Force trigger says "After this attack is resolved, other characters within range 2 of this character are pushed away from this character S. Pushed characters suffer 1 damage."

- Carnage's Rampage DOES NOT affect the target of the attack.
    https://forums.atomicmassgames.com/topic/15279-maximum-carnage-rampage-trigger-on-target/#comment-63093

- It was assumed that Gwenom's does as well since the wording is the same.

- Weapon X's trigger DOES hit the target of the attack even though the wording is almost exactly the same.
    https://forums.atomicmassgames.com/topic/16415-rampage-on-weapon-x/#comment-66878

- Explosive Force, which is worded differently but has similar intonations as the Rampage effect DOES hit the target of the attack.
    https://forums.atomicmassgames.com/topic/834-kinetic-burst-wild-effect-clarifications/#comment-3508

It feels like the ruling on the Carnage/Gwenom rampage falls differently than other rulings (Weapon X and Black Panther). Can you please explain why this is different?

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On 9/20/2024 at 7:34 AM, Shadow Marvel said:

What is the difference in determining who is affected by attack triggers like Rampage and Explosive Force?

It feels like the ruling on the Carnage/Gwenom rampage falls differently than other rulings (Weapon X and Black Panther). Can you please explain why this is different?

The specific rules mentioned use different phrasing when describing who will be affected by the effect. These differences explain why they work as described in your post and in the linked threads.  

Weapon X’s Rampage and Black Panther’s Explosive Force work in a similar manner affecting all characters with the specified range of Weapon X/Black Panther (“each other character within Range of this character”).

Gwenom and Carnage’s Rampage affects enemy characters other than the target within a specific range of Gwenom/Carnage (“other enemy characters within Range of this character”).

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