Chubs01 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 hoping to clarify my understanding of cover and line of sight, and how being in base contact influences the situation. in the image, unit 1 is in base contact with the terrain piece that provides heavy cover, blocks line of sight, and is taller than a trooper silhouette. Are the following statements true: If unit 1 makes a ranged attack at unit 2, unit 2 will not get cover from the terrain piece because unit 1 is in base contact with it unit 1 is unable declare unit 3 a target for the ranged attack, because, while being in base contact negates the cover provided by the terrain piece, the terrain piece still has the property of blocking line of sight due to the terrain piece blocking line of sight, unit 1 may only have the two models in line of sight participate in the ranged attack because the third model is ineligible due to not having line of sight I guess this all of questions could be summarized by "If a unit is in base contact with a terrain piece, does it retain the property of blocking line of sight?" do any of the rulings of these statements change if - the terrain piece is instead a vehicle, such as a saber tank or snail tank? - the terrain piece is a height 2 building and unit 1 is on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Hi there, 29 minutes ago, Chubs01 said: If unit 1 makes a ranged attack at unit 2, unit 2 will not get cover from the terrain piece because unit 1 is in base contact with it Correct. Note that a miniature that is complete out of LOS will be considered obscured whether or not the attacking unit leader is touching the piece of terrain obscuring them. In your example, as two of the three defending minis in unit 2 appear visible - and have no cover as they are not obscured by terrain other than that with which the attacking unit leader is in base contact - then the unit will not have cover, as one obscured mini is not at least half of the unit obscured. 31 minutes ago, Chubs01 said: unit 1 is unable declare unit 3 a target for the ranged attack, because, while being in base contact negates the cover provided by the terrain piece, the terrain piece still has the property of blocking line of sight Correct. Unit 1 does not have LOS to unit 3. 32 minutes ago, Chubs01 said: due to the terrain piece blocking line of sight, unit 1 may only have the two models in line of sight participate in the ranged attack because the third model is ineligible due to not having line of sight Correct. 32 minutes ago, Chubs01 said: "If a unit is in base contact with a terrain piece, does it retain the property of blocking line of sight?" Yes. --------------------------------- 33 minutes ago, Chubs01 said: do any of the rulings of these statements change if - the terrain piece is instead a vehicle, such as a saber tank or snail tank? No; a Ground Vehicle also blocks LOS. 33 minutes ago, Chubs01 said: do any of the rulings of these statements change if - the terrain piece is a height 2 building and unit 1 is on top of it. If a unit is on top of terrain it is touching that terrain and therefore it cannot generally provide cover to defending units. You still need LOS to declare defenders eligibly, and miniatures that are completely out of LOS are considered obscured. So no, none of these rules change if the unit is on top of the obstacle terrain versus touching it from the table level; the unit's exact position upon that terrain will determine who it may attack and whether they will have cover. Hope this helps, Seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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