Limbs Getting in the Way of Model Placement

[Sleboda]

On page 24 of the Core Rules, the final bullet under Push or Pull reads:

 

"If an object cannot physically fit or balance on top of a terrain part or feature, the object cannot be Placed there."

 

This is not reiterated under the other types of movement, just Push or Pull.

 

1. Does this mean that it is acceptable to use 'stand in' empty bases (or other substitute, including just agreeing with an opponent that the model is "actually" on a spot where it cannot balance or fit) when, for example, advancing a model onto a precarious bit of terrain?

2. Assuming that the answer to the first question is "no," is it then an intentional limit on General Grievous that his cape and arms/lightsabers restrict where he can go on the table when compared to other models on the same size base (and perhaps therefore being a part of his game balance design)?

 

We play most of our games using standard AMG Shatterpoint terrain kits, and even simple layouts create areas where any other model on his base size can fit, but his arms and cape make him being positioned in those spots impossible.

 

Basically, we are wondering if it is intentional that his physical design limits where he can go or if players are meant to create a solution for positioning models like him.

 

Thank you.

[Thoras]

On 8/5/2023 at 2:49 AM, Sleboda said:

This is not reiterated under the other types of movement, just Push or Pull

This is actually also called out in a Snip'et on page 25 with some expanded wording and is applicable to all movement.

On 8/5/2023 at 2:49 AM, Sleboda said:

1. Does this mean that it is acceptable to use 'stand in' empty bases (or other substitute, including just agreeing with an opponent that the model is "actually" on a spot where it cannot balance or fit) when, for example, advancing a model onto a precarious bit of terrain?

No. A "stand in" or "proxy base" is not acceptable to use either in measuring or to replace a characters miniature. The miniature must be able to physically fit in the intended location.

On 8/5/2023 at 2:49 AM, Sleboda said:

Basically, we are wondering if it is intentional that his physical design limits where he can go or if players are meant to create a solution for positioning models like him

Players are expected to assist each other in model positioning to the extent that the rules allow. As mentioned, "Stand in" or "proxy bases" are not allowed within the rules, however, players working together by rotating miniatures is something that would be expected.

[Sleboda]

Ok. Yep. Pretty much what we've been doing. We're not cutthroat. 🙂