Illegal Targets and Paying Force

[J Chav ATLAS]

I hate even asking these questions but feel it's good to know.

What happens when you pay a force for an ability that can only target a unit that can't be effected?

For instance Bola Toss into Luke who's in the reserve. Luke has immunity to both conditions. Does the ability fail and the force is lost or does the ability fail and the force refunded with no legal targets?

If there is another target but you first select Luke, could you pick a new target?

Same for coordinated fire with a wounded unit and shooting a unit with immunity.

What about abilitiies like intercede. If you declare an illegal target, can you then declare a legal target?

Maybe a better question is, can you pay for an ability that has no effect?

[Thoras]

On 4/11/2024 at 11:59 AM, J Chav ATLAS said:

What happens when you pay a force for an ability that can only target a unit that can't be effected?

This is too open ended a question to answer for every possible rule.

On 4/11/2024 at 11:59 AM, J Chav ATLAS said:

For instance Bola Toss into Luke who's in the reserve. Luke has immunity to both conditions. Does the ability fail and the force is lost or does the ability fail and the force refunded with no legal targets?

The ability is used still, but the chosen character doesn't gain the condition. Nothing in the rule prevents the character from being chosen.

On 4/11/2024 at 11:59 AM, J Chav ATLAS said:

If there is another target but you first select Luke, could you pick a new target?

Not technically, although your opponent could allow you to.

On 4/11/2024 at 11:59 AM, J Chav ATLAS said:

Same for coordinated fire with a wounded unit and shooting a unit with immunity.

Can you clarify this question?

On 4/11/2024 at 11:59 AM, J Chav ATLAS said:

What about abilities like intercede. If you declare an illegal target, can you then declare a legal target?

This ability prevents the listed characters from being eligible targets, so they couldn't be picked to start with.

Which is slightly different from the other situations. Nothing in the previous examples prevents the character from being picked, just what happens after they are picked.

On 4/11/2024 at 11:59 AM, J Chav ATLAS said:

Maybe a better question is, can you pay for an ability that has no effect?

This is too open ended a question, it depends on the conditions of the individual rules.