Line of sight under of brige

[Verdex78]

If the attacking character is under a bridge and the attacked character is on that bridge, is the LOS blocked?

[Thoras]

If there is no other terrain between them that might block the line of sight, both characters will have line of sight to each other.

When a character is on top of a terrain part, the line of sight line to them can pass unobstructed through all terrain parts with the same or lower elevation as them. The line of sight line from them can also pass through Blocked terrain parts they are overlapping or that is at the same or lower elevation as them.

[Verdex78]

In the case of the image, Gar Saxon has LOS to Maul, if the bridge were a solid structure too?

[Thoras]

51 minutes ago, Verdex78 said:

In the case of the image, Gar Saxon has LOS to Maul, if the bridge were a solid structure too?

Yes, even if the bridge was defined as a Blocked terrain part, they would have LOS to each other.

Here is the core rule on how to determine line of sight. I've bolded and underlined the part that applies to your question. Because Lord Maul is on a Terrain Part, characters determining Line of sight to him can effectively ignore all terrain parts with the same or lower elevation as Lord Maul for the purposes of determining line of sight.

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LINE OF SIGHT
A character has Line of Sight (LOS) to an object if a straight, unobstructed line can be drawn from any part of that character’s base to the object. The line can pass unobstructed through characters, any Clear terrain parts, any Blocked terrain parts that the character is overlapping, and any Blocked terrain parts with the same or lower Elevation than that character. The line cannot pass through Blocked terrain features with a higher Elevation than the character. If the object is on top of a terrain part, the line can pass unobstructed through all terrain parts with the same or lower Elevation as the object.

 

[Sleboda]

Interestingly, that would mean the two characters here do not have Line of Sight between them. Looking top down (as the game does it that way, not using True LoS), there is blocking terrain at a higher elevation than the characters. Looking at 'eye level' like many experienced wargamers are used to, it feels clear that they can see each other, but they can't.

The same thing happens "through" the gap on the High Ground terrain pack tower where there is an open doorway that characters can see through using TLoS, but can't see through in the rules.

At least, that's what we understand in reading the rules. Are we right?

[Verdex78]

Thanks

[Thoras]

On 12/12/2023 at 7:33 PM, Sleboda said:

Interestingly, that would mean the two characters here do not have Line of Sight between them. Looking top down (as the game does it that way, not using True LoS), there is blocking terrain at a higher elevation than the characters. Looking at 'eye level' like many experienced wargamers are used to, it feels clear that they can see each other, but they can't.

The same thing happens "through" the gap on the High Ground terrain pack tower where there is an open doorway that characters can see through using TLoS, but can't see through in the rules.

At least, that's what we understand in reading the rules. Are we right?

Yes, you are correct.

[Sleboda]

Cool. We were kinda hoping we had missed something, so that these two could shoot each other, but we always prefer to be playing correctly. Good to know we had it right regardless.

Thanks oodles!