Verdex78 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 If the attacking character is under a bridge and the attacked character is on that bridge, is the LOS blocked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoras Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 If there is no other terrain between them that might block the line of sight, both characters will have line of sight to each other. When a character is on top of a terrain part, the line of sight line to them can pass unobstructed through all terrain parts with the same or lower elevation as them. The line of sight line from them can also pass through Blocked terrain parts they are overlapping or that is at the same or lower elevation as them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verdex78 Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 In the case of the image, Gar Saxon has LOS to Maul, if the bridge were a solid structure too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoras Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, Verdex78 said: In the case of the image, Gar Saxon has LOS to Maul, if the bridge were a solid structure too? Yes, even if the bridge was defined as a Blocked terrain part, they would have LOS to each other. Here is the core rule on how to determine line of sight. I've bolded and underlined the part that applies to your question. Because Lord Maul is on a Terrain Part, characters determining Line of sight to him can effectively ignore all terrain parts with the same or lower elevation as Lord Maul for the purposes of determining line of sight. Quote LINE OF SIGHT A character has Line of Sight (LOS) to an object if a straight, unobstructed line can be drawn from any part of that character’s base to the object. The line can pass unobstructed through characters, any Clear terrain parts, any Blocked terrain parts that the character is overlapping, and any Blocked terrain parts with the same or lower Elevation than that character. The line cannot pass through Blocked terrain features with a higher Elevation than the character. If the object is on top of a terrain part, the line can pass unobstructed through all terrain parts with the same or lower Elevation as the object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Interestingly, that would mean the two characters here do not have Line of Sight between them. Looking top down (as the game does it that way, not using True LoS), there is blocking terrain at a higher elevation than the characters. Looking at 'eye level' like many experienced wargamers are used to, it feels clear that they can see each other, but they can't. The same thing happens "through" the gap on the High Ground terrain pack tower where there is an open doorway that characters can see through using TLoS, but can't see through in the rules. At least, that's what we understand in reading the rules. Are we right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thoras Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 7:33 PM, Sleboda said: Interestingly, that would mean the two characters here do not have Line of Sight between them. Looking top down (as the game does it that way, not using True LoS), there is blocking terrain at a higher elevation than the characters. Looking at 'eye level' like many experienced wargamers are used to, it feels clear that they can see each other, but they can't. The same thing happens "through" the gap on the High Ground terrain pack tower where there is an open doorway that characters can see through using TLoS, but can't see through in the rules. At least, that's what we understand in reading the rules. Are we right? Yes, you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Cool. We were kinda hoping we had missed something, so that these two could shoot each other, but we always prefer to be playing correctly. Good to know we had it right regardless. Thanks oodles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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