Zetan Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Is Thor considered to be within range-2 of Black Widow in this photo? Or does range need to be measured from the center of the tool to the center of the tool? (or same edge to same edge, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negoldar Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 It should be center to center or same edge to same edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carefree Llama Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 So is the placement above technically illegal placement since thor isnt in the center of the range edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negoldar Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenjiMakoto Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Negoldar said: It should be center to center or same edge to same edge. 11 hours ago, Carefree Llama said: So is the placement above technically illegal placement since thor isnt in the center of the range edge? 11 hours ago, Negoldar said: Correct. Is there a place in the rule book I'm missing that says it has to be center to center? The example on page 9 of the online rulebook has Spider-Man off centered but says he's within range to attack the Red Skull. This example is similar to the OP's example as both models are still touching the edges of the range tool. Edited November 14, 2020 by SenjiMakoto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Herman Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I don’t get the answer. According with this example, placing the rule between both characters they are still within range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG_Pagani Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 The distance a ranged tool measures is the length of the tool, not the total area of the tool. This means that the tools length is used, not any point of the tool to any other point of the tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenjiMakoto Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, AMG_Pagani said: The distance a ranged tool measures is the length of the tool, not the total area of the tool. This means that the tools length is used, not any point of the tool to any other point of the tool. So a model is considered out of range in those two examples then because they are touching the edges and the tool doesn't over lap the base? Not trying to be difficult but we've been playing based on how the example in the rule book is shown. If that is not correct then we've been playing wrong since Day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG_Pagani Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I think you may be making this more complicated than it is! You measure with the length of the measuring tool. In the rule book they are (as close as can be expected given human error) centered on the tool, and the tool is touching both bases, so they are in range. It sounds like you have been playing it correctly the entire time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenjiMakoto Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 hours ago, AMG_Pagani said: I think you may be making this more complicated than it is! You measure with the length of the measuring tool. In the rule book they are (as close as can be expected given human error) centered on the tool, and the tool is touching both bases, so they are in range. It sounds like you have been playing it correctly the entire time! Ok. I’m probably just over thinking it. I think the idea that both figures had to be centered on the tool is what threw me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Herman Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 So just to be sure, the correct way to determine is somebody is within range 1st option (2 and 3 are wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negoldar Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 The first image would represent the outer limit of being in range. The other two would represent being within range, but not the outer limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG_Pagani Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 To reiterate what Negoldar is saying, the above comments are made assuming you are attempting to measure the maximum distance. Things within that distance, as shown in your drawings, are in range as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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