Measurement questions.

[Sliski]

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 When measuring distances in Shatterpoint, a player may only use one of each type of tool at a time and may not use any other device to measure distances. Players may measure distances at any time.

1. What does "one of each type of tool" mean? Can a player use a range 2 and range 5 at the same type as they are different measurement tools?
2. During Advance player puts movement tool touching the character base. Picks the model and place in desired position, than measure distances (for example 2 to objective and 5 to enemy character). Can the player pick the model and place in another position contacting the movement tool or should the first placement be consider final?
 

[Negoldar]

3 hours ago, Sliski said:

1. What does "one of each type of tool" mean? Can a player use a range 2 and range 5 at the same type as they are different measurement tools?

There are two types of tools: movement and range tools. 

Movement tools consist of the Dash and the Advance tool. 

Range tools consist of the Range 2, 3, 4, and 5 tools. 

You may use one of each type at the same time. 

3 hours ago, Sliski said:

2. During Advance player puts movement tool touching the character base. Picks the model and place in desired position, than measure distances (for example 2 to objective and 5 to enemy character). Can the player pick the model and place in another position contacting the movement tool or should the first placement be consider final?

You could have the Range 2 or Range 5 on the table at the same time as the Advance tool. 

[Sliski]

Second question: Player can measure distance 2, pick up the tool and measure 5. Can the player adjust model position after doing that or should the first placement of model (before measuring) be considered final?

[Thoras]

On 8/10/2023 at 3:34 AM, Sliski said:

Second question: Player can measure distance 2, pick up the tool and measure 5. Can the player adjust model position after doing that or should the first placement of model (before measuring) be considered final?

If you start measuring distances off of the moving model, you have confirmed the placement of the model, otherwise you are technically using the base as a measuring device.

You could place either the 2 or the 5 on the board ahead of time, then move the model up to either of those tools. But if you then move the tool to measure a different distance, you have finished the placement of the model.

[Sleboda]

On 8/11/2023 at 10:03 AM, Thoras said:

If you start measuring distances off of the moving model, you have confirmed the placement of the model, otherwise you are technically using the base as a measuring device.

You could place either the 2 or the 5 on the board ahead of time, then move the model up to either of those tools. But if you then move the tool to measure a different distance, you have finished the placement of the model.

I've seen lots of people place, for example, an Advance tool at a character's base, then place a Range 2 tool next to an objective, leaving a gap on the table between to the two tools - a gap they the naked eye thinks is small enough for the base of the model to cover once the character would be put there.

The thing is, it's not certain. The player can't check this gap's size using the base of the character (or any other base for that matter), correct?

[Thoras]

4 hours ago, Sleboda said:

I've seen lots of people place, for example, an Advance tool at a character's base, then place a Range 2 tool next to an objective, leaving a gap on the table between to the two tools - a gap they the naked eye thinks is small enough for the base of the model to cover once the character would be put there.

The thing is, it's not certain. The player can't check this gap's size using the base of the character (or any other base for that matter), correct?

Correct. 

[Sleboda]

2 hours ago, Thoras said:

Correct. 

Thanks!